Red Cross

Red Cross were interviewed by Al and Hud in April at the McDonald's house in Hawthorne. They live in a run down neighborhood that is being torn down for a future freeway. Red Cross (or as they would say "Linda Blair's Cross") are trying their hardest to be LA's best all girl band.

Flipside: Are you and Steve getting sex changes?
Jeff: Yeah, when we can afford it. When we make as much money as the Circle Jerks.
FS: You want to be an all girl band? J: It's definitely our goal.
Steve: Then we can play all Runaways songs. Cool all girl bands are hot, but there aren't any more.
Tracy: Me and Janet are planning on kicking Jeff and Steve out.
FS: Why did you quit that other "all girl" band Castration Squad?
T: Certain members made it impossible to...live.
FS: Tell us about the album.
J: The two foxy models on the cover are our main influence.
FS: How do you like Smoke 7?
S: They're great. They're happening right now. They let us do whatever we wanted on the record and on the cover. Felix is totally cool.
FS: What about Posh re-releasing that...
J: What can I say about Posh Boy.
T: He looks like Roman Polanski.
J: Oh, you have a crush on PoshBoy!
T: No!
FS: He's getting married.
T: Yeah, I saw a picture of her. She's really pretty.
S: Who? Rik L. Rik he's marrying!?
J: It's just good publicity for us if Posh re-releases that stuff. I just hope he makes a good cover. He has these real awful pictures of us. I was upset with his new wave birthday party cover on it last time. And his production is uh, it's overproduced and underproduced at the same time. It's like mud, professional mud. Rodney's great though, he's been playing us for a long time. If it was not for him we'd be nowhere.
FS: Where are you?
J: We are nowhere. We'd be beyond nowhere...Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is the movie that changed my life. Russ Meyer is our idol.
S: This all girl band goes to Hollywood and gets caught up in the sleaziness of it all. It's buxotic! It's like being on acid and you're not! Janet: A song on the album is about that movie.
FS: You also do a Charlie Manson song?
S: Yeah, the Beach Boys did it and the Beach Boys went to our high school.
J: They sang "Be True to Your School" and we did "I Hate My School" but I didn't think about that. It might have been subconscious. They're the most lame band in history.
FS: Do you worry about Charlie's Family? I mean you didn't give him credit.
J: Yeah, it's a bonus cut in the album so it's not listed. On the insert it thanks Charlie for writing a hot tune. We are going to send him some records in the mail and maybe some money.
FS: So he won't kill you?
S: Well, he fucking wrote it!
J: After the thing about music on the Tom Snyder show, wait 'till he hears what is coming out now. They should let him out for the fuck of it, he'd just be a bum.
T: There's still some Family members out there.
FS: Remember what happened when the Beach Boys covered his song!
Janet: My brother was Tex Watson for Halloween, and he carved a real "X" in his forehead.
T: Charles Starkweather is the best. Badlands is about that guy.
J: All the stoners around here thought Steve was murdered by the Freeway Strangler.
S: That was when I was on my trip to Vegas.
T: Me and Jenny sat in on his trial once, he's such a little guy.
J: Patty Hearst...Tanya, oops!, was me and Steve's idol.
FS: A lot of people still think Steve is 12.
S: Fuck I'm 14, they're living in the past.
FS: What are your favorite bands?
S: My favorite band is Naughty Women. They're LA's only all transvestite band. They're ultra. (Steve is a member).
J: They blow Vox Pop away!
FS: What's your favorite color?
T: Purple! It's so pretty.
J: Mine's egg shell white.
FS: What do you think of people getting stolen from your band?
S: The only person stolen was Dez, Ron we were glad to have out of the band, and he was already out of the band really. Hetson quit because he was trying to hustle Lucky into the band.
J: He was too good of a drummer, the old stuff was made for a drummer like Ron.
S: He was too professional for the material and finally Greg never came to practice. We didn't want a band then anyways 'cause it was such a disaster with Ron, he was such an asshole.
J: What does Chavo Pederast really mean?, something like buttfuck. Black Flag named him that, besides he was in love with Gerber at the time. Fuck, Gerber is crazier than ever now, she hit me in the face about five times, she was screaming, "Mike Ness won't fuck me!"
S: And carrying around a canteen full of hardcore liquor.
J: Oh I swear dogshit couldn't have been worse. Then she was rolling on the floor, taking her pants off, you know how she is. She's hilarious!
FS: What do you write about?
S: Linda Blair, Russ Meyer.
J: We're into exploitation of all kind.
FS: What do your parents think of the band now days?
J: Oh, they're real supportive. They didn't like it at first, they haven't seen us live yet.
S: We told them we're not going to go to work, whatever, we're not going to be welders so you might as well support us. This is what we're gonna do, make music so...
J: We got a young start and probably by the time I'm 25 I'll be a real guitarist. He got his bass when he was 11.
Janet: My parent are glad I'm in the band 'cause at least I'm doing something. I quit school and won't get a job and they're glad I'm in this band 'cause of the album.
J: My grandmother bought a bunch our first record and gave them to all of our family for Christmas.
T: My parents are glad I'm not sitting at home doing nothing anymore.
FS: Are you in school?
T: I really started taking a class at Santa Monica College.
Janet: I was thinking of going back but I can't stand the people.
FS: What about the new punks?
Janet: I used to be real obnoxiuos, light hippies hair on fire, but now it's not the same. There's no sense of humor. It's just a bunch of dicks trying to prove they're cool. They're bummed because they missed out on punk rock. They're just macho-jocks. They've got no place in anything.
J: Like Wasted Youth have songs like "Born Deprived" or "We're on Heroin", whatever, and they live in like the most expensive...it's their whole intent to appear that way. Chet's cool. I don't want to say anything bad, they're just not my most favorite band.
FS: Where do you guys get the Velvet Underground influences?
S: We didn't get into them until later. We started with David Bowie and the New York Dolls. Our aunts, like ever since Jeff was born, were total Beatle freaks.
J: I saw the Beatles in San Diego, and then we got into Bowie and T-Rex and all that other stuff.
Janet: Rock bands used to always practice behind my house and my parents would call the cops on them. That was when I was like 3 or 4. Now they have to take the same shit from our neighbors.

[Talk goes into 1) crank calling Serena Dank, 2) getting a ticket for "live music without a permit", 3) being on a TV show with Serena, 4)anti-rock and roll preachers, 5) Linda Blair in Born Innocent, 6)John Holmes eating dinner at Tracy's house, 7) Omlits [Janet's ex band] playing Camarillo, 8) what bullshit hair length is. All these subjects took more time than we have space.]

FS: Is this band gonna stay together?
S: I hope so! We have to record something for a compilation album on Bomp. It's not punk stuff.
Janet: I don't feel obligated to look punk rock, 'cause now it's bullshit. Baldies...
S: But that's not really punk rock anyway , so it doesn't matter.
J: Anyone's cool who really likes the music and goes out to have a good time. Anyone who goes out "let's kick someone's ass" or "I like to get banged up" are just bullshit.
S: All's there doing is having sex in the slam pit, they got off on it!
FS: Are you a punk rock band?
J: We're a punk rock band.
Janet: Punk rock means a lot of things.
J: If it's hoodlum, vandelizing teenager then we are, we are as obnoxious as anybody. It's not getting into beating each other up. I would be in pain and I wouldn't like that.
Janet: They don't care about the music, it's just there to slam to. But the best thing that's happening is punk. Now it's commercial punk. You want to see something bad, go to Gazzari's on any Sunday, it's battle of heavy metal bands. Ya know Charlie had a lot of good ideas. Baldy isn't into Charlie because Baldy doesn't know.
J: Bald is alright if you're not an ass.
Janet: Baldy is different, there's Baldy at every show.
S: Baldy is Godzilla's.
Janet: Godzilla's was a real bald place. I mean commercial punk is totally against the whole idea. They got rules, you can't be punk rock if you're not this tough...
J: Rules and standardism is bullshit. Trendyism is not an uncool thing anymore. People don't even know what the trends are.
FS: Was it a trend when you started?
J: No! it wasn't "in fashion" back then. I just went to see bands I liked, I freaked out. Music was what got me into it. I dress weird because it's fun. Setting standards for yourself and others is what you try to get away from in high school and shit.
Janet: Still the only good bands are punk rock. There's assholes and they suck!
S: I think we should all have lesbian sex.
Janet: Someone should put acid in the beer at Godzilla's and they'd all kill themselves 'cause they'd all look at themselves and go, "God what a dick!" and that would be it!
S: Too many bands have the audience more in mind than what they really want to write.
J: What makes the band? The people in the band, not the people who go to see the band.
S: If you don't like it why should you even be playing?
J: Hardcore is another term that bugs me. Hardcore is dedication, you are really into what you are doing, but now hardcore has these bounds. People might not consider us "hardcore" but dedication is dedication, anarchy is anarchy. Why don't they stop being fascists?

By: Al and Hud


Taken from "Flipside" fanzine #31, 1982